From Child’s View, Parents Find Full-Ice Hockey No Fun

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To demonstrate how a full sheet of ice looks to a child, USA Hockey put adult players on an extra large rink with giant nets to simulate what a child sees. T…

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nobody says:

In other countries they only have the kids who they feel have no potential
, do baby ADM ,but its sad because they dont know the’yre not wanted

transws6am says:

Try showing it the other way, and show what cross ice looks like to adults,
and put 3 adults against three adults in a telephone booth. You ADM clown’s
always jade your side and never show the opposite. You keep using smaller
football fields as examples. Fine, you want to compare to football? They
are playing tackle at 6, so you better take your ADM crap back so they are
checking at 6. ADM blows.

Marvin Minkler says:

propaganda

Atothe K says:

I was skeptical of the ADM but after one season I am sold. So many more
puck touches in practice with the small area games approach. The kids are
enjoying practice and developing skills a LOT more than I did in the 70s at
their age. And take a look at the performance of our Olympic team. Lots of
raw power, but still lacking in fundamentals. I really hope this new
approach will change all of that. It’s promising.

ml k says:

I just want to watch the big guys keel over in exhaustion.

As for the video, it’s a bit dramatic for a comparison, but we all get the
point.

nobody says:

i have to admit its one of the best babysitting classes
decent acting I wonder if used the goalie that was getting equipment just
for the shoot

Robert Chritstenberry says:

This is the most ridicules thing I have ever seen!!! Desperation to prove a
point trying to support cross ice hockey. Let’s face it, it’s not about
little Johnny having to skate further it’s about putting more kids on one
sheet of ice which equates to the OLD MIGHTY DOLLAR! My mite son plays D
and has no problem skating full ice. And yes he has learned the game which
he could have never achieved playing cross ice. The only aspect I agree
with is putting skill training before the game.

nobody says:

That is bull%$$#T no one but weak people is going to say its too big a ploy
by USA hockey to say they are right , A kid playing on a small ice rink
is a kid that will not have endurance and not realize that the rink is
bigger than he,s used to when he starts on a regular rink then it takes
them a year or two to catch up, of course they dont know the game or they
usually quit, USA HOCKEY ,you are wrong ,thats why we keep losing the gold
medal, you dont know what your doing and its been proven that the rinks
asked you to make ADM mandatory so they can make more money

Justas Imbrasas says:
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Patrick Seltsam says:

The one guy who says, “It feels like it is for a totally different sport”,
is right. It is called bandy, is played extensively in Scandanavia and
Russia and is actually pretty cool in its own right.

So you might say that putting 8 year-olds on an 85 X 200 ice sheet is a
perfect development strategy…for bandy…

Nathan Leslie says:

This is why we love small area games. This is an outstanding video by
#usahockey. Check out our Small Area Games in Support of this concept.
http://www.lgsports.ca/hockey-drills-2-small-area-games/

1redleg1 says:

They should require each parent to watch this every month until the kids
are eight or nine years old.

Dennis DeYoung says:

One difference – kids THINK they are bigger than they are!!! Most mites
think they play like a pro… :-)

Bob Brown says:

For kids starting out (5 and 6 years), cross ice (or better yet half ice)
is a great way to learn the basics on how to skate from starting to
stopping to turning with the drills ADM has put together. As the kids
become 7 and 8 years, they need to learn the fundamentals of the game to
prepare for the next level. This is achieved with full ice play. How do
you teach offside and positioning with cross ice? I think too many people
do not give kids credit for being able to learn the game at 7/8 and play
quality full ice games. Not sure what games people are watching where kids
who know the game are just standing around not part of the play other than
when they first are learning to skate. My son’s team has shown great
progression this past season while playing full ice and have become a
better defensive team. And since my son plays goalie (which is not a point
of emphasis of USA hockey for Mite aged kids), it has been appreciated that
his teammates have stepped up their defensive abilities/skills. I am
thankful that my son’s organization had the opportunity to play full ice
this past season. He has gained confidence throughout the year just as his
teammates have and they are all prepared to make the jump to Squirts this
upcoming fall. For those kids learning the game at an older age, there are
plenty of organizations that offer “learn to skate” programs to help them
get ready to play either house or travel hockey. 

Pete Gasper says:

I was there, at Eagle River Wisconsin. I felt just like these guys were
talking…

Uppercornerhockey says:

awesome and i subbed… i will share on my pages as well great production
value too!

strangeinc says:

Paul McKinney of Minneapolis would eat this up. So would his son Thomas

Ryan Hughes says:

Does Hockey Canada make their 8 year olds play half ice with a blue puck
that is too light to glide properly? Treat 8 year old USA Hockey
platyers like babies, and they’ll continue to get smoked by other countries
that don’t. 

hockeyplaya449 says:

I am one of these clowns just way better at hockey… 

midwill80 says:

I love how this simple little video (that points out some often overlooked
differences between adults and children playing the game on the same size
ice) turns everyone into an expert on what’s wrong with the youth game.

Stop being know it all’s, get a good laugh from the video, and keep an open
mind the next time you go to yell at your kid for, letting the man go once
he/she got beat, or got their pass intercepted. That was the whole point to
this video. Not to start a discussion on everything wrong with the youth
game from people who know very little of what they speak of.

Sorry for being harsh, but you people are killing me. 

Patrick OHara says:

Take that rink, divide it into 3 sections. Next put up 6 of those
oversized nets (2 in each section). Add dividing “walls”. Keep playing
4-on-4, with faceoffs after every goal. Blow a horn every 90 seconds to
signal that it is time for a line change, but don’t stop the clock.

The only one getting more puck touches is the referee.

MrHamsterpudding says:

Okay, I’m confused. As a Canadian who played hockey growing up, I remember
playing half sheets of ice until about the age of 8 or so. Is this not the
way it is done in the US? However, I do agree that even at that age, the
surface is way too big and a trip up and down the ice leaves most kids
exhausted. I thought that USA Hockey did a good job with this video to
illustrate the point that a full sized rink is designed for adults, not
young kids.

David Hoffman says:

Hence the ADM program.

BJL1970 says:

Too many goals is horrible. The goalies are facing consistent top shelf
shots from shooters from age 6.

Either the full net, or blue puck should go away. 

Craig MacDonald says:

Love it! The commentary from the adults is great. Fantastic job USA
Hockey!

Bill Dots says:

This is as ridiculous as the online modules that they make you do. USA
hockey is the biggest money grab going. 

swimbkrun says:

Some someone need a wambulance. I get the point, but these answers are
clearly staged to make it. 

zteelchainz says:

This is so usa hockey its ridiculous. 

Julian Trevino says:

FUNNY…so overly dramatic that it’s clearly just USA Hockey trying to sell
the 1/2 ice ida. I agree at a very young age, mini-mites, the 1/2 ice is a
good idea. However trying to push kids from full ice back to 1/2 ice for
the first part of a season was a bad idea. Had they chose a “starting with
the 20xx age (mini-mite)” they will skate the 1/2 ice a portion of the mite
year, I think it would be accepted by more. A lot of teams, at least in
this area, jumped to AAU, including my son’s team. This year he made 2
mite travel teams, one the 1/2 ice (where he knew most of the team from
mini-mites) and a full ice team (he didn’t know anyone). He chose full
ice. The development difference is great. We scrimmaged a couple 1/2 ice
teams and dominated them. They were slower, didn’t move around well in
open ice situations, passing wasn’t nearly as sharp as it would have been
and some of the newer kids didn’t fully understand offsides, icing, etc.

Brian McDonald says:

Don’t let the NHL see those nets! :p

Hal Tearse says:

The responses below represent the issue. This is a good presentation that
demonstrates the point. Small area games is the way to go through mites and
used also in squirts and above. Remember the game is for the kids not the
coaches and not the parents.

MikeBilly says:

AWESOME Video!!!

NORTH AYRSHIRE ICE HOCKEY CLUB says:

Think we all forget they are kids sometimes.

momstermeg says:

And to prove that what goes around, comes around, the ice again looks like
a landing strip for a 747 when you reach 50+ years old.

Ted R says:

This is ridiculous.

Let’s start with the nets. Little kids can’t fire a black puck top corner,
at least not with any consistency. Adults quite often can. Tiny goaltenders
get balanced out by poor shooters. The goalies and shooters grow and learn
together at approximately the same rate as they get older. It remains
balanced. Instead, you switched to blue pucks years ago and gave shooters a
huge advantage over the goaltenders who now often get shelled for more than
5 goals each in a standard game. The best thing to do would be to get rid
of those blue pucks and go back to black. It makes shooting more difficult
and levels the playing field between shooters and goalies.

The ice size is also a silly comparison. A larger ice means that people
have more time to make decisions with the puck. A young kid has an
extremely hard time making a decision in a split second. Larger ice sizes
give the kid 2+ seconds to make a decision because the ice is more spread
out. Then as they get older, everyone gets faster and the time to make a
play shortens, but they’re also much more capable of making decisions in
less than a second. A standard ice size maintains a balance between
physical and mental abilities for the players as they grow up.

That’s not to say that half-ice and small area games are bad. No, they’re
great as they force quick decision making IN PRACTICE, where the games are
extremely sloppy because the kids aren’t good at making fast decisions yet.
The kids then use what they learned in practice and with more time, are
able to make better decisions on the ice during a game. They use small area
games to prepare for the real thing, not as a replacement for it.

Taking a bunch of beer leaguers and throwing them on an ice they’ve never
played before and will never play again doesn’t make a point. It makes USA
hockey look stupid and desperate. If those same guys were given more time
to adjust to the playing surface, they’d be able to take advantage of the
extra time and spread things out. If they consistently played on an ice
that size, they’d catch on and eventually play a good game, although the
whole pace would be quite a bit slower than the hockey we’re used to, with
a lot more puck possession… more like soccer.

The decision to go to larger nets will always be stupid. It completely
unbalances the struggle between shooters and goalies.

Joseph Boncore says:

I think this is a little dramatic but couldn’t agree more with the overall
message. This year with the 1/2 year half ice and 1/2 year full ice I have
had the opportunity to see first hand that for skill development and player
involvement small area games is the way to go. On the full ice the game has
slowed down tremendously. Some of the kids are trying so hard to skate up
and down the ice they forget to get involved in the play while the faster
skaters dominate with breakaway after breakaway. USA Hockey got it right
with the ADM movement.

dathomsen says:

I think they should have used bigger sticks and pucks too. I can’t believe
how many of my players show up with dad’s old stick cut down to size. Fun
video to watch.

Terry Evavold says:

Thank you USA Hockey! 

Joe Astuccio says:

I just started a petition to use those nets in my adult league! I don’t
think I will be able to get the goalies to sign it though.

Howard Breslau says:

Three words: Small Area Games!

Suzanne Doody says:

Some great quotes in here about how the size difference affects puck
touches, being involved in the play, and the ability to communicate. All
really good things to remember when you think about kids.

Matthew Arambulo says:

As a coach this is great perspective. Courts and fields were made for
adults and teaching young kids the game on it may be other worldly. We
forget we grew into the game and we need to foster that growth as best we
can no matter the sport. #growthegame #coaching #perspective #volleyball


Varsity Hockey says:

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hockeyplaya449 says:

I would dangle these clowns 

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